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Viva la vida

Hi y’all Long time no post. Hope you’ve all been keeping well. For the first time in months I’ve had an urge to make a killer. However before you get the killer I’m going to put you through some hoops and make you think a bit. The song “Viva la vida” by Coldplay is a musical phenomenom. Since it appeared in a global ipod TV commercial, it has achieved worldwide succeess, reaching number one in the US and has propelled Coldplay to the status of biggest band in the world. But nobody knows what the song is about. People say it’s about the Crusades, the French revolution, Jesus, the Bible, lost love, loneliness, war etc etc. Here are the lyrics; and here is the album cover Firstly, what do you think the meaning of the song is? After 3 posts or 100 views I will move on to the next bit. (Stick with this because I guarentee it’ll be good) The Viva La Vida Code (part two)
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  1. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of h3lix)
    That is a great song…I got that album for my dad on father’s day.

    I think I enjoy the song more not knowing what it means, but I’m sure there is a fascinating meaning behind it.

    My guess is it’s either a song about people who have ruled the world throughout history or a not very flattering song about Jesus.

    Welcome back!
    When life gives you lemons, squeeze the juice into the eyes of your enemies.

  2. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of mikejapan)
    Nice try H3lix.

    Sorry Hatman, that doesn’t count as a comment because there was no thought involved.

    Two more comments needed before moving on to the next step.

  3. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of h3lix)
    Well, the only other thing I could guess would be Dubya Confused

  4. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of mikejapan)
    Actually, when I first heard it I immediately thought of Dubya too. But then again, if I read a box of cornflakes I think of Dubya so that doesn’t count for much. Bloody tree-hugging liberal latte drinker that I am.

    One more post or 46 more views before part two which will really stretch your brains.

    While you’re waiting, this is pretty interesting – as “fair and balanced” as a hippopotamus and a hamster sitting on opposite ends of a sea-saw ;

  5. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of Ronnie G)
    Here’s a quote from Rolling Stone magazine about the name “Viva la Vida”:

    Singer Chris Martin chose it after seeing the phrase, which means “long live life,” on a painting by Mexican artist Frida Kahlo, who endured polio, a broken spine, and chronic pain for decades. “She went through a lot of shit, of course, and then she started a big painting in her house that said ‘Viva la Vida,’” says Martin. “I just loved the boldness of it.”

    The painting, while stunning with color and geometry, is a still life of cut watermelon…..which has no connection I can see of celebrating life.
    Soo….maybe Martin is simply focusing on “boldness”. The idea being that a life that touches the highest highs and also the lowest lows is a life that is fully lived.

  6. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of h3lix)
    Frida Kahlo is an inspirational figure and that is a great philosophy.

    I hope you’re right.
    When life gives you lemons, squeeze the juice into the eyes of your enemies.

  7. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of mikejapan)
    I like Coldplay. You may remember I have posted Coldplay killers here and I mentioned I saw them in Tokyo on their Twisted Logic tour two years ago.

    Although I thought Viva la vida was about Bush, it couldn’t be because Coldplay don’t do political protest songs….do they?

    I checked all the other lyrics on the album and the song “Violet Hill” seemed definitely political. I checked wikipedia;

    Coldplay made two videos for “Violet Hill”. One was for MTV with them prancing about in Sicily and another one.

    This other video is the most amazing music video I have ever seen. The synchronisation between the pictures, the music and the words is absolutely incredible.

    Watch the video, then tell me what you think the meaning of the video is.

    After 3 posts or another 100 views I will move on to the next part.

  8. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of h3lix)
    Subtle and obvious at the same time…

    I’m somewhat disappointed, but relieved that they mocked the entire political system somewhat equilaterally.

    I like the iTunes spot better. Smile
    When life gives you lemons, squeeze the juice into the eyes of your enemies.

  9. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of mikejapan)
    Bloody hell!

    That lyric site I gave you have recently changed the words!

    The correct line “I know St Peter WON’T call my name” has now become “I know St Peter WILL call my name” People are posting comments on that site that they are all singing it at Church!!

    It’s like when US religion changes the words of John Lennon’s Imagine to “….and one religion too”

  10. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of mikejapan)
    ……and if you check that lyric site’s words to “Violet Hill” you will see that the line “and a FOX became God” has been changed to “and the FOG became God”

    I know “Fox” is right because;
    a. It says so on wikipedia
    b. You can hear it on the video
    c. There is one lyric site that says “Fox”
    d. When you buy any foreign CD in Japan you always get the words in English with the Japanese words next. It says “Fox” (kitsune in Japanese)

  11. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of Ronnie G)

    I didn’t realize you took you killers so politically Surprised

    I still go by my original premise……this album, as a whole, is about boldness.

    a quote from your wiki link regarding this video:

    ‘It prominently features George W. Bush, presenting clips of him in a mocking manner. Prominent 20th century personalities, such as Fidel Castro, Richard Nixon, Hugo Chávez, Robert Mugabe, Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Boris Yeltsin, Barack Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Tony and Cherie Blair, and Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip are featured in this alternate video.’

    Whether you agree with the politics of any of the aforementioned, or not, certainly you can ackowledge their respective roles in shaping the 20th century….they are the bold ones of our time.

    I live in the US, and am fascinated and surprised by perceptions of people like you, who have an international perspective.

    Be bold, Mike! Give us your puzzle, then go change the world!!

  12. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of mikejapan)
    Firstly, this site has been slowly dying and it’s painful to watch. The idea of this thread is generate some interest in the site. You may or may not agree with what I’m saying, but at least it’s creating interest. If you don’t agree with me, then just do as Ronnie G did and feel free to post what you think.

    Secondly, it’s great to see Americans like Ronnie G being so open-minded to negative perceptions of their country held by Brits like me and bands like Coldplay.

    So far I’ve only recycled some stuff from the internet which anyone could have done. The interesting bit will follow shortly (after 200 views).

    While you’re waiting for the next part, here’s a full episode of the pinko-commie Bush-bashing John Stewart Daily Show (June 25) featuring a live peformance of two songs by a little known British band called Coldplay.

    And here’s a topical killer for you to do which I posted a while back

    Imagine there’s a Heaven
    It’s easy if you try
    A Hell below us
    Above us bright blue sky
    Imagine all the peolple living life His way

    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And one religion too

    Imagine all possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people sharing all His word

    You may say I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll join us
    And the world will be as one.

    (interesting how small changes to the words cause massive changes to the original meaning)

    Q magazine asked Chris Martin about the line “I know Saint Peter won’t call my name” sung in “Viva la Vida”. Martin replied: “It’s about… You’re not on the list. I was a naughty boy. It’s always fascinated me that idea of finishing your life and then being analyzed on it. And it’s that runs through most religions. That’s why people blow up buildings. Because they think they’re going to get lots of virgins. I always feel like saying, Just join a band (laughs). That is the most frightening thing you could possibly say to somebody. Eternal damnation. I know about this stuff because I studied it. I was into it all. I know it. It’s still mildly terrifying to me. And this is serious

    Now I must don my red cape and fly off to where I’m needed most.

  13. Posted July 7, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    (on behalf of mikejapan)
    Having now reached 200 posts, here’s the good bit that you won’t find on the internet (as far as I know). Time to put your thinking caps on.

    The above Chris Martin quote + the Viva la vida album cover = ?

  14. h3lix
    Posted July 7, 2008 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    The change of the lyrics seems a bit suspicious, but I don’t know if it’s really censorship rather than just a simple mistake (after all, the song does sound like it’s saying “I know St. Peter will call my name”)

    I can’t see where you’re going with this, but I’m fascinated to find out!

  15. mikejapan
    Posted July 8, 2008 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    So each of these lyric sites is run by some old granny whose sole job is to listen to the words of each song and write them down?

    Why do all the lyric sites say “Fog” for “Fox” on Violet Hill?

    Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that the only lyrics that have been changed in two Coldplay songs can be both verified using wikipedia because those lyrics are the ONLY lyrics mentioned on wikipedia?

    Anyhow as people seem to be struggling with the

    quote + album cover = ?

    Make a connection between the answers to these three questions;

    1. What religion is Chris Martin talking about?
    2. Is the painting on the album a new painting or an old painting?
    3. Where is the painting hung?

  16. mosset
    Posted June 7, 2009 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Viva la vida is played by coach Pep Guardiola to the Barcelona Football team before each match to motivate and inspire them. It seems to work as this season they have become the first Spanish team to do the treble (League, Cup and Champions League). “Live Life!” is a pretty good motivation even for those whose life perhaps is only football…

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